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Goatwhiskers Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:28 pm Post subject: Stupid people |
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You hear the most interesting stories down at the local farmer's coffee spot. The latest was a guy bragging on the .17HMR as a hog rifle. Claimed a 200yd shot on a 200 plus pound hog, shoulder shot, dropped it in it's tracks. I just told him he needs a bigger gun. This is the same fella that was bragging on his one shot kill of a buck with his 7Mag at 750yds. Not saying impossible, just have to consider the source. His last remark as he left was "maybe I should go back and step that off." Ya think? I love hunting stories. Goatwhiskers the Elder _________________ Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the he-- happened. |
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Ed Whipple SENIOR MEMBER
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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ahhh rifle range talk...
any rifle behind the right person can harvest an animal...
but this just don't sound like that type of person...  _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/SpecialEd309
2012 - 2 Hunt 4 Harvest |
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Burt TB Ballistics guy

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 6982 LOCATION REQUIRED: San Antonio Texas
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Stupid, or maybe some guys exaggerate a little ? ( Ok, they BS a lot )
That guy's shot is nuthin though. I took out a 650 pound hog with a single shot from
a Daisy Red Ryder, at 934 yards at night, in heavy fog, and he was on the
back side of the hill from me. Yep, did it using indirect fire techniques.
Oh, and I forgot to mention there were wind gusts from 3 different directions, as high
as 55 mph when I did it. I did have a NV scope though, that helped some.
Given the low velocity of the killer BB, the earth's rotation had to be taken into
account also.... _________________ Ban guns to eliminate crime ?
Let's ban cars, to eliminate drunk driving.
Makes as much sense. |
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Mike H SENIOR MEMBER
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:52 pm Post subject: post subject |
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| Sounds a lot like "fish stories". |
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Burt TB Ballistics guy

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 6982 LOCATION REQUIRED: San Antonio Texas
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | any rifle behind the right person can harvest an animal... |
Within reasonable range and limitations of the bullet and all that is. _________________ Ban guns to eliminate crime ?
Let's ban cars, to eliminate drunk driving.
Makes as much sense. |
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Mark Muhr NEWCOMER
Joined: 21 Aug 2011 Posts: 22 LOCATION REQUIRED: N. of Tyler
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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I knew a guy who claimed an Elk at 918 yds. I believed him though, he was a Secret Service counter sniper. _________________ Mark |
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Pelon Texasboars Legend Club Elite

Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 3175 LOCATION REQUIRED: Galveston area
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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I shot a pig at 80 yards with 2 spit balls . one in each nostral . It couldn't breath and DRT in a matter of minutes.  _________________ "I'll be okay , it only hurts when I breathe " |
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hogcaller SENIOR MEMBER
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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I stared a bear to death at POINT BLANK RANGE! Just call me Davy!  |
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possom813 SENIOR MEMBER
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Burt wrote: | Stupid, or maybe some guys exaggerate a little ? ( Ok, they BS a lot )
That guy's shot is nuthin though. I took out a 650 pound hog with a single shot from
a Daisy Red Ryder, at 934 yards at night, in heavy fog, and he was on the
back side of the hill from me. Yep, did it using indirect fire techniques.
Oh, and I forgot to mention there were wind gusts from 3 different directions, as high
as 55 mph when I did it. I did have a NV scope though, that helped some.
Given the low velocity of the killer BB, the earth's rotation had to be taken into
account also.... |
Ya know Burt, coming from you, I almost believe it  _________________ Chicka Chicka Wow Wow! |
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Burt TB Ballistics guy

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 6982 LOCATION REQUIRED: San Antonio Texas
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Rumors and propaganda possum.  _________________ Ban guns to eliminate crime ?
Let's ban cars, to eliminate drunk driving.
Makes as much sense. |
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Burt TB Ballistics guy

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 6982 LOCATION REQUIRED: San Antonio Texas
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Mark Muhr wrote: | | I knew a guy who claimed an Elk at 918 yds. I believed him though, he was a Secret Service counter sniper. |
I have no doubt on that one. Lot of long range shots have been made.
Misses too of course though. _________________ Ban guns to eliminate crime ?
Let's ban cars, to eliminate drunk driving.
Makes as much sense. |
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Mark Muhr NEWCOMER
Joined: 21 Aug 2011 Posts: 22 LOCATION REQUIRED: N. of Tyler
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Burt wrote: | | Mark Muhr wrote: | | I knew a guy who claimed an Elk at 918 yds. I believed him though, he was a Secret Service counter sniper. |
I have no doubt on that one. Lot of long range shots have been made.
Misses too of course though. |
Yeah, he actually admitted to missing the first shot. He was shooting across a valley and could judge the wind on his side and the side the elk was on, but the wind through the middle of the valley did in his first shot. Luckily he saw the bullet strike and was able to adjust for the second shot. Then he had to hike for two miles to retrieve his elk carrying his 28 lb rifle. Me, I'll stick to my short shots with my nice and light .30-06.  _________________ Mark |
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Ed Whipple SENIOR MEMBER
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Burt wrote: | I took out a 650 pound hog with a single shot from
a Daisy Red Ryder, at 934 yards at night, in heavy fog, and he was on the
back side of the hill from me. |
Shhheshhh little over kill there...
I used a home made slingshot using rubber bands, my fingers and a sharpened paperclip!!!! Nailed that sucker at 300 yards right in the eye ball!!!!  _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/SpecialEd309
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Gary Rapp SENIOR MEMBER
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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I need to find another hog hunting forum to hang out in. You guys are in a class I will never be able to hold my own in. Most of the kills I make are no more than 100yds with my 308, which is how I like it. I did jump out of a tree stand and on 2 100lbers. One in each arm, choked em out. I knew from my stand I couldn't get the pass thru to get em both. Nice shooting guys.
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Burt TB Ballistics guy

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 6982 LOCATION REQUIRED: San Antonio Texas
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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You need the B.S. and P.H.D. Degrees
( Piled higher and deeper ) _________________ Ban guns to eliminate crime ?
Let's ban cars, to eliminate drunk driving.
Makes as much sense. |
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Gary Rapp SENIOR MEMBER
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't know if I'll get the degree, but you boys sure are educating me. Today, I learned where not to step. So, whats tomorrows class professor? |
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Burt TB Ballistics guy

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 6982 LOCATION REQUIRED: San Antonio Texas
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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The next class is known as "The first liar doesn't have a chance".
Basically, this means you should hold off on telling a big one until a few others
have gone first. This will allow you the chance to come up with the aforementioned
P.H.D. results easier. _________________ Ban guns to eliminate crime ?
Let's ban cars, to eliminate drunk driving.
Makes as much sense. |
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Gary Rapp SENIOR MEMBER
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| Burt, I knew I was waisting time in college. But to get a similar sense of education, how are you going to get all those pretty girls in here? |
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Mark Muhr NEWCOMER
Joined: 21 Aug 2011 Posts: 22 LOCATION REQUIRED: N. of Tyler
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:52 am Post subject: |
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| Gary Rapp wrote: | | But to get a similar sense of education, how are you going to get all those pretty girls in here? |
Kegger? _________________ Mark |
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Burt TB Ballistics guy

Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 6982 LOCATION REQUIRED: San Antonio Texas
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:11 am Post subject: |
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| Gary Rapp wrote: | | Burt, I knew I was waisting time in college. But to get a similar sense of education, how are you going to get all those pretty girls in here? |
Lesson #3 - Economics As Related to Hunting And Other Hobbies
It has been proven that girls create what's known as a negative cash flow.
Specifically, the numerous obvious, along with the hidden costs relating to
girls has been proven to severely reduce the amount of cash flow.
They also greatly reduce the amount of time available to go hunting and whatnot.
Cash flow is needed to acquire various weapons and technological gadgets, ammo,
leases, and / or properties on which to pursue the hogs, etc. _________________ Ban guns to eliminate crime ?
Let's ban cars, to eliminate drunk driving.
Makes as much sense. |
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FrankT Texasboars Legends Club
Joined: 05 Jun 2011 Posts: 1754
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| In my stand with the .44 saw 3 hogs come out, threw my xwife out the window of the shooting house, scared them so bad all 3 hogs dropped dead in their tracks...tada |
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Dave Morris Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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As Master Po used to always tell Grasshopper:
"Video or it didn't happen" |
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TORO Texasboars Legend Club Elite

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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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I just thought about hunting pigs and killed a whole sounder
 _________________ 2012 Hog Totals=70
2013 Hog Totals=31
Fences fixed=1.9 miles
ATV Miles=338 |
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Pelon Texasboars Legend Club Elite

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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| TORO wrote: | I just thought about hunting pigs and killed a whole sounder
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If you really did it , I'd like you to think about a little rain . Maybe it will flood.  _________________ "I'll be okay , it only hurts when I breathe " |
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TxPhantom Member
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry for stepping into this so late but I was just browsing old threads and came across this one.
A while back three of us went down around Ozona Tx to do some javelina hunting. One of the guys brought along a 17 hmr rifle. I thought he was nuts but the guy is military and a very good shot. Anyway, he wound up shooting a fair sized javalina, head shot,.... it dropped like a rock. So I guess we are back at the old shot placement as opposed to heavy load arguement. I won't be carrying a little bitty thing like that but I guess shot placement won this time.  |
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Burt TB Ballistics guy

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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 1:34 am Post subject: |
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We've seen videos of hogs killed at close range with air rifles also.
Some larger caliber, some small. Doesn't mean it's a good idea though.
Head shots work when the hogs stand still long enough, and all of that.
Usually anyway....I have a video of a large hog hit in the head with a .30-30 and the Hornady
flex tip factory load. Hog didn't even go down, ran off, and was not recovered.
Point is, there are stories both pro and con to the small caliber head shot approach.
We do not promote that method on this forum. _________________ Ban guns to eliminate crime ?
Let's ban cars, to eliminate drunk driving.
Makes as much sense. |
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Gary Rapp SENIOR MEMBER
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 1:45 am Post subject: |
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| Just because a guy is military doesn't make him any more educated. Especially on the 17HMR. While our military has a lot of bright folks, it has a lot of dummies too. |
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HUEY Hog Cereal Killer

Joined: 12 Feb 2010 Posts: 1263 LOCATION REQUIRED: OCCUPIED TEXAS
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 2:10 am Post subject: |
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| Burt wrote: |
934 yards at night, in heavy fog, and he was on the
back side of the hill from me. Yep, did it using indirect fire techniques.
Oh, and I forgot to mention there were wind gusts from 3 different directions, as high
as 55 mph when I did it. I did have a NV scope though, that helped some.
Given the low velocity of the killer BB, the earth's rotation had to be taken into
account also.... |
I think I would need those conditions to make a 934 yard shot! _________________ 2010 568 dead hogs/2011 224 dead hogs
2012 118 dead hogs/2013 42 dead hogs |
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TxPhantom Member
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| Gary Rapp wrote: | | Just because a guy is military doesn't make him any more educated. Especially on the 17HMR. While our military has a lot of bright folks, it has a lot of dummies too. |
I agree. Some of the people I met while in the Army were pretty useless, but the guy I was refering to was a ex ranger and is now a instructor at Xe (formerly Blackwater) training center in N. Carolina. He trains SWAT teams as well as military counter terrorist. He has been to the mid east many times as military and as a support bodyguard. He definately knows weaponry. He just took the 17hmr because it was a new rifle and he wanted to try it out. |
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Gary Rapp SENIOR MEMBER
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Sounds like your friend may know his stuff. |
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