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eddiebojones RESPECTED MEMBER
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:24 pm Post subject: Panther spotted on our land. |
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I was taking down a feeder and looked behind me in shooting lane, and there sat a black panther watching me. As soon as I reached for trusty it disapeared. We hung the head and hide of the big bore that my son killed to dry, and the whole thing is gone. Paw prints with claw marks mark the spot. How do we get this thing? Would like to trap it. But how? _________________ I was new to hog trapping, but old to the survival game. (USMC)
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Flintknapper PERMANENT BAN
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: Panther spotted on our land. |
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| eddiebojones wrote: | | I was taking down a feeder and looked behind me in shooting lane, and there sat a black panther watching me. As soon as I reached for trusty it disapeared. We hung the head and hide of the big bore that my son killed to dry, and the whole thing is gone. Paw prints with claw marks mark the spot. How do we get this thing? Would like to trap it. But how? |
You don't. There are no non captive black panthers in the USA.
Those who will argue the point, please point to ONE credible photo, kill, or documented report.
Yes, the Mountain Lion/Cougar/Panther/Catamount exists in many counties in Texas and in certain states , BUT...there have been no documented cases of a "black panther" being killed or collected in Texas or other places in the U.S.
In some Counties along the border...the "Jaguar" is making a come back. It is generally larger than the mountain lion....and has spots that can run together enough to give it a dark appearance in low light. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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eddie, you know what you saw, who am I to say otherwise.
Bait him with another hog carcass and sit on it till he shows up.
Be sure to take lots of pictures, maybe even put you a trailcam on the carcass.  _________________ Pro-Staff @ Wild Boar USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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If the prints are showing claw/nail prints, it wasn't done by a cat of any species, but either by coyotes or domestic dogs.
What time of day did you spot the cougar? |
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Flintknapper PERMANENT BAN
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| slick1 wrote: | If the prints are showing claw/nail prints, it wasn't done by a cat of any species, but either by coyotes or domestic dogs.
What time of day did you spot the cougar? |
I considered pointing that out also, but allowed for muddy conditions AND the cat stepping on something (dirt clod) that would cause the claws to slightly extend.
Felines have retractable claws....that do NOT show up on the track (under normal circumstances).
I hope everyone understands I am not doubting the man saw "something" black, or that the figure "appeared to be" a panther.
I am just trying help dispel the myth of black panthers, Bigfoot, and Chupa Cabra's.
Hundreds (if not thousands) of accounts of "black panthers" are reported each year. Each year... NO ONE comes up with empirical evidence supporting the sightings. I mean no ridicule by my statements.
That is NOT to say that folks are not seeing things...its just that they are mistaken about the identity.
As previously suggested....baiting the same sight and putting up a game cam is probably all that can be done. |
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txbigbossman Honored Member

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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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I personally am not doubting what you seen man. IF it were me, I would put a game camera or maybe even two and do as stated, but another dead hog up and see what comes to it. If it did it once, should do it twice. Good luck to ya. Keep us informed . PICS< PICS. _________________ Just my 2 cents worth with a nickel rebate.
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eddiebojones RESPECTED MEMBER
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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I absolutely know what I saw, and am not the only one that sighted this cat in my area. As for there not being any in captivety here, I could surely prove you wrong. In Leona Texas Pop Perry has Bingal Tigers., Panthers, Baboons, and Hyenna that can be viewed from Hwy 977. They are in huge cages. Better yet I will take and post pics next week. Just because you haven't sighted a certain spec ies of cat dosen't mean nobody else hasen't. No harm meant, and certainly none done on your part either. If every other illegal thing can make it into this country, well you fill in the rest of the blanks. _________________ I was new to hog trapping, but old to the survival game. (USMC)
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eddiebojones RESPECTED MEMBER
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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No this cat is about twice the size and had a long tail. As a matter of fact I will talk to all my neighbors and ask them to please take pics if they kill it, or other opportunity presents itself for photos. I would like to trap the thing and let the game warden take it. I know it is out of place here , but so are a lot of unexplained things. _________________ I was new to hog trapping, but old to the survival game. (USMC)
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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eddiebojones wrote:
| Quote: | | I absolutely know what I saw, and am not the only one that sighted this cat in my area. |
As previously posted, I have no doubt you saw "something"..and I am in no way questioning your integrity. I just doubt you actually witnessed what you think you saw.
| Quote: | | As for there not being any in captivety here, I could surely prove you wrong. In Leona Texas Pop Perry has Bingal Tigers., Panthers, Baboons, and Hyenna that can be viewed from Hwy 977. They are in huge cages. Better yet I will take and post pics next week. |
Eddie I think you have misunderstood me. My previous post stated there are no black panthers that are NOT captive. Doubtless...you can show me a bunch of caged cats. I don't want you to trouble yourself proving that point.
| Quote: | | Just because you haven't sighted a certain spec ies of cat dosen't mean nobody else hasen't. |
That is true. I readily concede that point. I am just pointing out...that it is a near impossibility that you have seen one.
| Quote: | | No harm meant, and certainly none done on your part either. |
Thank you Sir, I certainly mean no disrepect...and I know you do not either. Please accept my propositions in the spirit in which they are given (just offering information and opinion).
| Quote: | | If every other illegal thing can make it into this country, well you fill in the rest of the blanks. |
Yes, there is some minuscule chance that you saw a melanistic cougar, bobcat or even Jaguar. Anything is "possible" I suppose. I would be happy if you prove me wrong....but chances are slim.
If you are really convinced you witnessed a black panther I would contact the TPWD or the nearest Crypto-zoologist, I know they would be interested and may be able to provide resources to help locate it.
Best of luck and keep us informed,
Flint. |
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Flintknapper PERMANENT BAN
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| eddiebojones wrote: | | No this cat is about twice the size and had a long tail. As a matter of fact I will talk to all my neighbors and ask them to please take pics if they kill it, or other opportunity presents itself for photos. I would like to trap the thing and let the game warden take it. I know it is out of place here , but so are a lot of unexplained things. |
Eddie your sig and profile do not indicate where you live.
If you don't mind sharing (I understand if you do not) can you tell me "approximately" where these sightings occurred.
Thanks,
Flint. |
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eddiebojones RESPECTED MEMBER
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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East Texas with a Central lean. _________________ I was new to hog trapping, but old to the survival game. (USMC)
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txbigbossman Honored Member

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A longggggggggggg time ago, when I was like 14 yr old. Old man next door to us we called Uncle John. He was no kin, but may as well been you know. Anyways, we planted corn wtih an OLD Popping Johnny and HAND PICKED 255 acres of corn every year to send to the mill in Groveton for feed. At this time, the forest people were not leasing land in Trinity County and the land was open land. He had hundreds of WILD cattle he would make his rounds and feed. Anyways, one day, we went to the mill. His old 1956 Chev Apache one ton 4 speed would be unloaded with dried corn and the mill ground it up and put molasses syrup and other stuff in it. Makes into 100 lbs toad bags. Anyways, we were at one of his places, wlaking in the woods and I heard what sounded like a lady being beaten to death, screaming. He told me it was a panther. Scared the heck out of me. This thing screamed for alike 20 minutes. I thought I was on Bonaza show or something. Got to the old truck and there were cat prints on the hood, the top and back. Huge prints. He showed me where that thing had licked some of the molasses that spilled from the sacks.......never seen it, never heard it again,,,,,,,,,I have no doubt to doubt that old man for he was about as straight forward you would find. _________________ Just my 2 cents worth with a nickel rebate.
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:31 am Post subject: |
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Bait for it. Set a camera for it and SHOOT IT!!  _________________ NRA LIFE MEMBER
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:41 am Post subject: |
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| eddiebojones wrote: | | East Texas with a Central lean. |
The only other cat that makes any sense…would be the Jaguarundi:
This is the gray phase, most are dark red in color.
Unless you live in the far Southern reaches of Texas it is highly unlikely this is what you saw either. But, who knows.
They are not very large...maybe twice the size of a housecat. |
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Flintknapper PERMANENT BAN
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| eddiebojones wrote: | | No this cat is about twice the size and had a long tail. As a matter of fact I will talk to all my neighbors and ask them to please take pics if they kill it, or other opportunity presents itself for photos. I would like to trap the thing and let the game warden take it. I know it is out of place here , but so are a lot of unexplained things. |
You can go back and double check the paw prints (assuming they are still there and discernible).
Cougar “panther” tracks will not normally show any claw marks even in mud:
Also look for the distinct outline of the pad, it will have two “lobes” near the front and three near the back. The overall shape is very asymmetrical unlike canines.
Note the lobes of this plaster casting:
If you don’t see these characteristics then you don’t have a cougar or any other large cat.
Pics of tracks with a ruler nearby would be helpful. |
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eddiebojones RESPECTED MEMBER
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:43 am Post subject: |
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Let's just all rule out all possibilities of being sane, and take your word for it. Maybe we just saw a cross between a black bear and a lion. _________________ I was new to hog trapping, but old to the survival game. (USMC)
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| eddiebojones wrote: | | Let's just all rule out all possibilities of being sane, and take your word for it. Maybe we just saw a cross between a black bear and a lion. |
Eddie....I think I detect a little sarcasm.
Obviously, we have over labored this thread. I will just bow out now.
Good luck to you Sir, take care,
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:10 am Post subject: |
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No harm meant Kirt, but for someone to go to such lengths to prove someone wrong, and discredit them and all that have like opinions, just gets my goat. Believe it or nor sir, this will not be the only thing sighted that you haven't seen, heard, or believe in. Again no harm on my part, and thanks for the input. I did learn of other big cats that may plague us in these parts. I'll be looking. _________________ I was new to hog trapping, but old to the survival game. (USMC)
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:33 am Post subject: |
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Don't feel bad about people following the state's official position. While I have not seen one locally, I work with a lady who had one in her back yard in Upshur county. In fact Chnl 7, KLTV, in Tyler, even interviewed a bunch of folks who saw one. The guy from the state said they didn't exist. I'm running 2 game cams year round up there to see what goes thru the property.
If ya do get one, go to the media first. The state might make it disappear before anybody knows whats' up.
(Can't believe he doesn't believe in Big Foot, Chupa Cabra or black panthers. Probably doesn't even know that a mapache is the larva form of a Chupa Carba! ) _________________ Semper Fi,
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:43 am Post subject: |
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| how many of you have see a badger or mink, just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not there just hard to see. |
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txbigbossman Honored Member

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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:48 am Post subject: |
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I personally feel you saw what you said you said you saw. Anything is possible this day and time. You always hear of people raising wild game and for whatever reason, turing it out in the wild. Years ago, way past the Lake Livingston Dam site, salt water crabs and fish were found and caught in the Trinity River, where it was mostly to all fresh water. Now, some tell me crabs are even further up the river, even closer to the dam.
Take an another example...the black bear population is gradually returning to parts where they have been extint for a 100 years.
I heard the other day in Angelina County they turned some buffalo loose, but I dont know about that one.
What about wild hogs........I think it was ranchmanager stating the other day that just a few years ago, they didnt have hogs on their ranch and they had it for generations. So where did the hogs come from, did someone drop them off after being caught, maybe but doubtful or did the hogs do like everywhere else and migrate.......possibly and probable......
While I am preaching, lol , I recall something about some monkies that got out or loose and was damaging some farm lands , I think around the San Antonio area years ago. It was proposed to shoot all of them due to them detroying crops. Some tree huggers actually recovered of them and turned them loose in the wild elsewhere. I forgot some of the details, but it was on the news and I know you dont believe everything said on TV but you know some it happens.
So, yes sir.........anything is possible. _________________ Just my 2 cents worth with a nickel rebate.
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_(legendary_creature)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_panther
I gaurantee you seen a black panther. A black panther is only a term for a large black cat. Be it lion, jaguar, leapord. So you are right you did see one. I can wait till you get a pic of it. Those things are freaken perrrty. Good luck with it and keep us posted. No matter what type of cat it is it is a Black panter.  |
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| Dirtymike wrote: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_(legendary_creature)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_panther
I gaurantee you seen a black panther. A black panther is only a term for a large black cat. Be it lion, jaguar, leapord. So you are right you did see one. I can wait till you get a pic of it. Those things are freaken perrrty. Good luck with it and keep us posted. No matter what type of cat it is it is a Black panter.  |
Mike, did you read the links you provided?
An excerpt from one of them:
Melanistic cougars
There are no authenticated cases of truly melanistic cougars. Black cougars have been reported in Kentucky and in the Carolinas. There have also been reports of glossy black cougars from Kansas, Texas and eastern Nebraska. These have come to be known as the North American black panther. None have ever been photographed or shot in the wild and none have been bred. There is wide consensus among breeders and biologists that the animal does not exist and is a cryptid. Sightings are currently attributed to errors in species identification by non-experts, and by the memetic exaggeration of size. |
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Well Eddie, I can say that I've seen one two times in PA. The first time was whiel we were spotlighting for deer and spotted the black panther chasing the deer. A few days later my mother was driving down the road approx 1 mile from where we spotlighted it and it ran across the road in front of her. My 2 sisters were in the car w/ us also.
If someone states they saw something they more than likely did. Who's gonna have a camera strapped to their forehead and ready for a picture at any second? I rarely have a camera w/ me. _________________ Bob |
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Japanese snow monkeys were loose around Dilley Texas in the
early 1990s. One of the guys on the lease next to mine shot one,
and I saw it after the fact. An outfit by the name of "Primarily Primates"
had some escape as I recall.
Also saw a badger on my lease lease there a couple of times. _________________ Onward Through The Hog ! |
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eddiebojones RESPECTED MEMBER
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Going the be butchering 25 meat birds monday Nd will try to bait a trap for our mystical cat. I would surely be one happy Marine Corp vet if I caught this (PANTHER). Whatever the statistics say don't mean diddly to me, because I am not old enough to be seinile, nor am I a drinker, so my vision is hardly impaired. Hope to prove my point soon. _________________ I was new to hog trapping, but old to the survival game. (USMC)
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| eddie. You have no need to prove. I know you saw one. No BS. My father in law has a video of one in vhs old school. If you need help trapping him (not that I know what to do) or just want company on the hunt pm me. I think it would be way cooler to trap it than to kill it. I know you must have seen a black cat which is a panther. You are lucky to have seen him/her. They are elusive. |
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Black panther (disambiguation)
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A black panther is a dark colored variant of any of several cat species.
We can do this for days what you got. Bottom line the dude seen a big BAN ME NOW black cat. Which is a Panther no matter where you live; Big BAN ME NOW black cat = panther. |
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