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 Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 3:04 pm Post subject: THE WORST MOST REPEATED MISTAKE! |
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I thought this was common sense 
BUT,
over the phone it gets repeated SO OFTEN, and I see it so often that;
I FEEL it has to be the most REPEATED SIMPLE MISTAKE that results in the most screwed up hunts that exists.
Here is the story line -- QUOTE 1,000 hunters LOL (just kidding, its only 999) "man, (EXCITEMENT) the hogs are coming to the bait EVERY NIGHT,, WE ARE GON'A GET ONE!"
RESULTS
(SORROW, DEFEAT, CONFUSION after the hunt) "MAN I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS, we could hear the hogs coming to the feeder/bait -- THEY WERE RIGHT THERE!
WE DIDN'T SEE THEM""""
"WE EVEN BAITED WITH FRESH CORN WHEN WE GOT THEIR"!
Allow me to repeat,
They are their EVERY NIGHT,, but the night you hunted they didn't show up?
HOG HUNTING 101 -- that WAS NOT coincidence or BAD LUCK. You screwed up (SMILE) welcome to the challenge of HUNTING.
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LISTEN,, for those who don't know me, I may seem a stranger or my style may seem aggressive.
O own these forums and I am TEXASBOARS. I kill a CRAP LOAD of hogs I just don't post it.
For t he sake of argument;
EVERY EXAMPLE has an exclusion.
THIS IS GENERAL HOG HUNTING 101 FOR BIG SMART HOGS as well as dumb stupid hogs!
EVEN NOVICES can start a hunt by breaking every rule and still kill a dumb stupid uneducated hog. BUT, to get the SMART EDUCATED HOGS, and TROPHY BOAR,, here is:
HOG HUNTING 101 - ADVICE (SMILE)
 The MOST REPEATED SIMPLE MISTAKE is walking in and around the baited area just before the hunt   
NO OFFENSE to anybody but I will use an example that includes forum members, cause I everybody I hunt with,, is a forum member, ANYWAY, every time I go hunt at KLEIN FARM with somebody,, this is what happens,, (no offense - take it as good advice) just before the hunt,, the hunters load up and go SABOTAGE the pig pipes - in the name of BAITING/hunting  Handle the pipes, trample all over the baited area look for tracks/scout. YEAH, it's fun and I enjoy the time with those hunters. Seriously, all it amounts to is SABOTAGE.
For those who do the same thing LOL, stop it! The corn your putting in MAKES NO DIFFERENCE in the hogs showing up THAT NIGHT! OTHER THAN,, scaring them off.
SAME MISTAKE is repeated over and over while having conversation with hunters on the phone!
IN EVERY INSTANCE hunters complain TEXASBOARS lights scare the hogs (when used as recommended) I ASK one simple question, did you walk in the baited area before the hunt
"WELL YEAH, but we wore rubber boots and used scent killer"
EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Thats the ANNOYING SCREW UP BUZZER
Or I can use the GONG?
In the end,, when we get the HOG HUNTING 101 MISTAKES corrected, the hunters start killing hogs consistently (with or without TEXASBOARS LIGHTS).
BASICALLY, ALL THE SUDDEN,, the lights stop scaring the hogs when HOG HUNTING 101 is in place,, LOL.
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MINIMUM, MINIMUM, MINIMUM, MINIMUM, If you CAN NOT, or you are not ABLE to get IN AND OUT of the baited area with at least 4 HOURS of SUNLIGHT remaining,,
STAY OUT OUT
STAY AWAY FROM YOUR BAITED SET UP.
(Pretend Phyl Robertson of DUCK COMMANDER is saying this in his slow cool voice)
""""Screw scent killer,,,,,, LEAVE THE RUBBER BOOOTS in the boot rack,, and stay away from your baited area"""!
NEXT THING that's repeated after mistake #1 is the
EXCUSE for breaking HOG HUNTINIG 101 rules,, well the corn needed replenishing and we needed to check for tracks or check t he camera, so we had to get fresh corn put out before we hunted,
GONG GONG GONG
EEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
WELL IT WAS TOO LATE FOR that kind of stuff
Resist the temptation to do that! Have faith in your work that the hogs are coming and JUST HUNT!
FACT IS, you should ALREADY HAVE a good idea on the hogs TRAFFIC before you hunt, OR you're breaking HOG HUNTING 101 basic rules.
My ADVICE,, refill the corn / scout AT LEAST, MINIMUM, ONE DAY before the hunt -- with at least 4 hours of sunlight remaining if at all possible.
Otherwisae, go with your best INSTINCT or best BET from past experience on which location will produce results.
HOG HUNTING 101
PS,, what is the deal with 4 hours of sunlight.
The suns radiation will BURN OFF "most" "skin sluff" (BODY ODOR) in about 3 to 4 hours.
RUBBER BOOTS,, not even a RUBBER SUIT can prevent SKIN SLUFF (BODY ODOR). All they do is create FOOT ODOR (more BO) and that's a scientific FACT.
TIP,, if you absolutley MUST put out FRESH CORN,, get a bucket and THROW IT INTO the baited area from AS FAR AWAY as possible.
THANK YOU for reading,
This gives me an idea,, a new challenge.
A NEW THREAD,,
---->>>>> HOG HUNTING 101 ---- RULES OF ENGAGEMENT
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Kevin i hunt a lease that i have to drive 60+ miles to -not terribly far but i can't do it every week.
I have noticed that hogs don't come to my spot on the lease on the night that i replenish their slop/corn just as you have stated.
I'm going to try to partner up with someone in the lease who can put fresh groceries out for me a day or two before i go out to hunt -and i can do the same for them.
I have one daylight picture of a lone boar -5:38am the morning after i put his grape corn out -he will be at the feeder right after dark until the grape corn is gone [one or two days].When there is only plain corn left he shows up anywhere from 10pm to 2:30pm ish.
So if things go as planned for me -i'll shoot a boar at dark -skin him out and be in bed early listening to the freezer run cooling down the meat.
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| mike eversole wrote: | Kevin i hunt a lease that i have to drive 60+ miles to -not terribly far but i can't do it every week.
I have noticed that hogs don't come to my spot on the lease on the night that i replenish their slop/corn just as you have stated.
I'm going to try to partner up with someone in the lease who can put fresh groceries out for me a day or two before i go out to hunt -and i can do the same for them.
I have one daylight picture of a lone boar -5:38am the morning after i put his grape corn out -he will be at the feeder right after dark until the grape corn is gone [one or two days].When there is only plain corn left he shows up anywhere from 10pm to 2:30pm ish.
So if things go as planned for me -i'll shoot a boar at dark -skin him out and be in bed early listening to the freezer run cooling down the meat. |
I understand,
what you need to come up with is a way to make the "BAIT" last longer.
As you stated, buddy up with somebody.
OR as simple goes;
Use an automatic feeder that will dispense corn for you.
AGAIN, the bait you put out when you first arrive,, will not COAX in a hog that same night. If they are going to come check the bait, they will come whether you put out bait or not.
Keep that in mind.
SO,, if you must,, -- all you really need to do is place enough bait to hold the hogs that do come. A few handfulls will do that. BUT DO NO TOUCH THE CORN.
Pour it into a bucket, use that bucket to sling it into the baited area from as far away as possible.
ALSO,, you could use some START-A-RUB and saturate 2 or 3 trees at your bait for a more long term solution. This stuff will create a RUBBING POST that they will frequent even if the bait is gone. It helps keep them coming.
AND,, in situations such as yours, if you need to replenish your bait.
MAKE SURE you approach with stealth. You may have to ABANDON your vehicle and walk?
A lot will depend on how you have your set up arranged. LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.
You should be able to ENTER and EXIT withOUT alerting your QUARY!
IF NOT,, change it/move it.
LOOK AT -- HOG HUNTING 101 THREAD
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One should also keep in mind,,
repeating t he same mistake over and over (?)
If it ain't working the way you have it set up -- it's sure enough a waste to keep repeating the mistake.
HOG HUNTING 101
Learn from your mistakes and adjust.
If the hogs are coming to the bait,, and when you show up to hunt they aint showing up,, that is sure enough a HIGH INDICATION mistakes abound.
Adjustments needed may be simple or they may require a whole new approach and a completely different set up.
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great info kevin, that is how i do it as well
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Thanks Kevin.... More often than not I find myself looking at hundreds of photos of hogs on my game cam and then none when I get there. Of course I hunt a friends place and he may have young kids riding 4 wheelers all around all day as well as shooting guns at targets.
I do the best I can and simply explain to people that the hogs know I am there and fear me so much they refuse to come out.
As always I appreciate you sharing your wealth of knowledge. The DB on THF was and is an idiot. I love my light!!
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| Paul Dennis wrote: | Thanks Kevin.... ---- simply explain to people that the hogs know I am there and fear me so much they refuse to come out.
I love my light!! |
HECK YEAH,, thats what I say too!
OK, if the kids ride 4 wheelers all the time, the hogs are likely used to it and may no longer bother them.
Parked cattle trailers and ol trucks in open pastures. They IGNORE that stuff. That's how I get away with hunting hogs from my truck, even if they come out before dark and can see the truck. They just ignore it. They see trailers and vehicles in pastures regularly.
SO,, you have to SEARCH and DIG (L E A R N) to see what they are using to ID your presence. What ever your doing, do it DIFFERENT.
Here's a piece of AMAZING info. They (wild hogs) can even take it to the point of SPEECH RECOGNITION.
EXAMPLE (I may have already posted this elsewhere).
On a horse farm (Arabians) where I do hog removal,, the hogs come IN to feed when the owners or pouring out protein pellets to the horses. When I say come in,, I mean they APPROACH just like domestic stock and eat in plain view. The horses HATE THEM!
The owners, who feed every morning, can talk and communicate all they want while feeding and the hogs are as close as 10 FEET.. They IGNORE the owners.
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When I come to shoot them,, If a SAY A SINGLE WORD, at any time (even before we go out) -- the hogs (waiting at the gate) can ID a strange voice (from 100 yards) and they know to LEAVE! BAD things are coming LOL.
SO, when I come to remove (shoot) those hogs (while on the back of the truck) I have to WALK from the ENTRY GATE 300 yards away so they don't hear me open the gate drive over the kleachy rock (they know BAD THINGS coming)
---- and I can't talk to the owners, say HI or ar ANYTHING,, or the pigs (waiting at the gate) will hear me.
If I don't screw up,, I ride out on the back of the feed truck, shoot a hog at 10 yards from their truck waiting to be fed My education is over till they return (maybe 3 days maybe 3 weeks - but they have always returned -- what was orihinally 40 to 50 adults is now around 5 to 7 adults -- but we have to deal with 40 - 50 orphan shoats -- which now seems to be at 20 or so and growing). getting ever smarter and smarter and smarter.
NOW, it has evolved to this.
I have to arrive at the gate at around 4:00 AM (1.5 hours before feed time),, walk to the FEED LOT and set up in a hay ring and WAIT for them work their way into the feed lot (100 yards behind the house).
Shoot as many as possible, usually 1 sometimes 2, distance of 30 or 40 yards.
I will usually sit and wait till after the owners pour out the feed because some hogs (different group) wait till the owners leave for work till they come out and eat. If so, I'll get another one.
The absolute strangest hunt I have ever been involved with outside HIGH FENCE.
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I can vouch for the situation on the place Kevin is talking about.
Things have evolved a lot there since last summer.
Back then, the hogs ignored us as they passed within 30 yards or so
in broad daylight - headed to the horse feeding area.
We were in plain sight in the back of a pick up truck.
When they came back past that spot though, they got an education, and took
pretty good loses. 
The next time I was there, we saw only one hog while set up in the same spot
as before. That hog is no longer with us either.
Seems that after that, the set up stopped being productive, and has evolved into
the situation currently described above by Kevin.
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I still have to throw it out there, any animal (even humans) become "conditioned" to certain things and learn to take them for granted.
Once something out of the ordinary happens they become spooked and harder to find and hence, educated.
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| TORO wrote: | I still have to throw it out there, any animal (even humans) become "conditioned" to certain things and learn to take them for granted.
Once something out of the ordinary happens they become spooked and harder to find and hence, educated. |
Yeah, that's a real good way to put it. Conditioned is the word.
We believe this "conditioning" was created by a hunting operation only a mile or so up a major creek drainage. They operation fed captured wild hogs. So many of them were somewhat habituated.
The horse farm never had this problem until that operation went belly up and released all their captive animals. It was A LOT of them. After that,, 60 to 70 started showing up and actually took up residence right their at the feed lot. So we believe strongly that this crazy situation (habituation) was due to conditioning.
When it first began we just walked out into the herd and blasted 7 of them. The problem is,, the horses went into a stampede and the stallions, in their small pens, went nuts! It was a scary situation from the landowners stand point. The horses could have injured themselves.
So, as a result we had to conduct removal far away from the feed lot at the back of the property. After 1 year and about 100 hogs they caught on to that and took up residence near the house in a small thickit (about 2 acres). Due to the horses we couldn't shoot'em there. So they were CONDITIONED again, knowing that the just the FEED LOT was their safe zone! They wouldn't leave it. They food, water, and shelter in less than 2 acres.
It has been very difficult to break this trend. We've been at it for 2 years now.
The big problem is the SHOATS, trained by their mothers, return when natural forage is hard to come by. They in turn train or condition their shoats to do this.
It's a lot better now, after the second year. We're only dealing with a handful of mature sow. We do have a large group of shoats, they basicly get removed from a large trap the landowner built. The mature animals won't go in the trap,, so we're plugging away at them.
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| mike eversole wrote: | Kevin i hunt a lease that i have to drive 60+ miles to -not terribly far but i can't do it every week.
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Yeah, around me is a very unique situation.
Van Zandt county is freekin over-run with these stinking animals. There are 3 wild hogs to every head of cattle.
Last winter I was out driving during a full moon night. I saw 6 herd of hogs in a 20 minute round trip drive. I would say the number of MATURE hogs was pushing 300!
What I'm getting at, I'm lucky the landowners are cursed. I have lots of hunting ground within in 4 or 5 miles of the house and more only a 15 minute drive of the house. With only 2 exceptions. The horse farm is about 25 minutes and Colfax is about 20 minutes. We dropped all other properties (3) more than 10 miles away due to the overwhelming expenses.
I did the math at the end of last summer and figured we were spending about $200+ a month on gas and corn trying to maintain things.
When gas jumped back up and corn hit $10.00 a bag we just couldn't do it anymore. We had to either get assistance from the landowners or drop it.
SO yeah, 60 miles one way, in my opinion would at minimum require a good quality, reliable, automated feeder!
I think with that, if nobody stole it or sabotaged it, you would be in business.
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even things like truck doors shutting and 4 wheelers and such will make a smart hog rethink its steps
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I'm blessed to live on my hunting land. Farthest I have to drive is 4 miles.
One of the most common errors I see is that MANY people don't pay attention to the wind when hunting.......AT ALL. I can't tell you how many times I have seen our neighbors drive in to their place with the wind at their backs and think they are gonna get anything. |
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[quote="timhicks"]even things like truck doors shutting and 4 wheelers and such will make a smart hog rethink its steps[/quote]
Tim, that is a good point too. I always have whoever is hunting with me to push the truck doors shut or leave them slightly open.
Speaking of sounds, I have noticed that a certain group of hogs would come out whenever we plowed. They would come out into the plowed ground and eat and root around. When the tractor got within 300 yards they would go back into the mesquites until I made another round. They did this for 2 or 3 plowings until they got too comfortable and let me get close enough to kill 3 of them. |
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| This is right on. I go through this with my hunters at least once a week. Seems like people think of hogs as dumb little corn crunchers, until they get out there and start hunting. Its the same story as above, pigs around but the lights booger them, etc. or when I pick them up they say, " well, I walked around a bit right before it got dark and there is alot of good size tracks that go back that way a hundred yards." In my opinion, a mature hog that is use to being hunted is one of the hardest bow hunts you can take in Texas, but by hunting the wind, staying away from bait and trails and not over doing it the night of the hunt, its very doable. Too many people hunt hogs like they would a deer. Spooked deer most often cirlce and hang around trying to figure out what it was that they caught on to, a hog will flat get outta the country if it gets spooked. |
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| hogcaller wrote: | I'm blessed to live on my hunting land. Farthest I have to drive is 4 miles.
One of the most common errors I see is that MANY people don't pay attention to the wind when hunting.......AT ALL. I can't tell you how many times I have seen our neighbors drive in to their place with the wind at their backs and think they are gonna get anything. |
You got that right!
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| timhicks wrote: | | even things like truck doors shutting and 4 wheelers and such will make a smart hog rethink its steps |
Yeah,, on many occasion I have had Guests SLAM the doors to the vehicle.
Sometimes, iof the vehicle is a LONG WAYS away, it aint a big deal. I walways tell them, we're parking close and ask them to be QUIET. ""SLAM""
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| Quote: | | I walways tell them, we're parking close and ask them to be QUIET. ""SLAM" |
I've been with guys that slam the doors too and thought about asking them to slam the door a few more times so that if some of the pigs didn't hear it the first time they can still know that we are here and can run away from the area.
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Yes, with so many people you have to be specific because they can't think for themselves. We tell our hunters exactly what to do and what not to do when out in the field so there is no question.
IE: don't slam the doors, don't speak above a whisper, don't drag your feet when you walk, don't make fast movements when pigs are close, stay very close behind the guide so if he stops-you stop, this is not the time to catch-up, he stopped because the pigs went on alert-you must freeze also, and the list goes on.
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| Quote: | | and the list goes on. |
Like.. your baggy pants are rubbing together and making noise. Guilty on that one, but I learned from that experience.
Note to self... night vision helps in the dark but it doesn't clean the wax out of your ears.
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I agree on the hogs evolving, i hunt alot of remote locations pack in pack out its gotten to where i have to bring my A game every time or i may not get an oppurtunity my hogs are bow kills so i set up within 15 yards i feel it is very important to use sow in heat as a cover scent. it is even better when mixed with the corn i use drag rags in and out saturated in sow in heat anything to make the hogs feel more comfortable
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