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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news Ron! I hope I can stockpile quite a bit other than hunting rounds.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FrankT wrote:
Good news Ron! I hope I can stockpile quite a bit other than hunting rounds.


hate to show how many I have lol
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am scared of your stash too!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man I know my stash has nothing on either one of you guys! I need to buy more and soon! I probably only have about 150 rounds ready to go and 120 or so waiting to be loaded.

I have to make a trip to Mesquite to get some AA2200 powder that's supposed to be the cat's meow for 6.8. Been waiting to do that before loading the rest of my primed brass!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2200 is ok for the 6.8, but i'm liking RL-10X and RL-7, depending on the bullets....
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supposed to be selling the mini tomorrow for 125 more than I paid for it! along w 2000 rds of ammo, now I don't feel so bad!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow Frank, that will work!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

David K wrote:
2200 is ok for the 6.8, but i'm liking RL-10X and RL-7, depending on the bullets....


David, I've loaded about 100 rounds with the RL-10x and have had good results; haven't loaded RL-7 or AA2200.

All the 6.8 guys rave about AA2200. So what can you tell me about your experience with AA2200 and RL-7?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd have to go through my loads, i've tried 2200 and 10x side by side, and 10x was more accurate, however that doesn't mean alot, as that was through one of my 6.8's

here is some 2200 loads you may want to look at:

http://68forums.com/forums/showthread.php?25411-Newest-AA2200-load-data
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks David!

Say, what happened to that guy to get him banned? I've read a lot of his posts and he had some good information!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best mags and place that has best price? I need 2, 5rd for deer here in FL, I usually carry 10rd mags for hog hunting and I guess a couple 20/25 for SHTF ammo. Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out Hamlund Tactical.
http://hamlundtactical.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&zenid=fbec4bc1fc2b74964e9de659b4a814b0&keyword=6.8+magazines&x=0&y=0
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darn the mags are high!! Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These mags aren't cheap, except the ASC 10 rounders, which work fine for me.

Here's a 5 rounder, not cheap:

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/31022626-1.html

Heres the ASC 10 rounder:

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/MAG152-1.html

I have several of the ASC and they work great!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Upper is out for delivery today, getting excited now!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FFL Got the lower ready( Spikes) , upper is here(stag arms), everything else came in, going to pay for the lower and put it all together tomorrow. Buddy told me to get the Burris xtreme xtra high rings for my scope, not sure about the height but he seems to think these will work, hope to try some different rings before buying.

Got 6 boxes of the SSA 110gr Barnes TSX and a variety of mags, already shipped, so i am almost ready to hit the range.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FrankT wrote:

Got 6 boxes of the SSA 110gr Barnes TSX and a variety of mags, already shipped, so i am almost ready to hit the range.


Squeeze gently,

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet!

Awaiting the results! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon Baldwin wrote:
I've been eyeballing a Stag Arms 6.8spc upper. They have them listed as low as $525, and I've found rounds as low as 62 cents. That works for me as I can use my current AR lower. I've seen complete composite lowers as cheap as $129, so that gets you a full-running 6.8 spc for a pretty reasonable price (at least until you start shopping for optics). I think 26 round magazines are about $35 each. Good luck!


Jon where did you find the .62 a rd ammo? You know I got that Stag upper and also bought the composite lower $99.95 delivered not sure what I am going to do with it but a friend got one and has 100 rds through it, no problems. Maybe a composite upper in .223? Got my mags and hunting ammo on the way.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:58 am    Post subject: Somthing to think on. Reply with quote

Hello all,

Frank you may want to think about building your own AR-15 or AR-10 it is very rewarding and you get the gun you want. I just finished a 7.62x39 AR-15 and it is a shooter with 0 feed or cycling problems at all. But I would not use it for pigs over 150 yards it just looses to much energy to be reliable after that. In fact I do not think you can get any caliber out of an AR-15 past 200 yards to have good enough ballistic or energy to do the job of killing a pig reliable. The only round that may come close to working would be the 400 WT at 2400fps. I would certainly never go smaller than 7.62mm no matter how much powder you put behind it in an AR-15. If you go bigger than 7.62mm the bullet drop after 200 yards is drastic with the heaver bullets you should use.

Now what should you use a heaver 7.62mm bullet out of an AR-10 if the AR is what you are set on and that would be my choice, but AR-10 are heavy. If you build your own, you can rig and tune it to your liking. Now with that said I must tell you I own ARs in 9mm, 5.56x45mm, 7.62x39mm, and 2 ea 7.62x51mm and think about a 358 Win upper for my AR-10 lower.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed, I have built 6 AR's 2 6.8 and 4 5.56 sold all but 1 and use my 6.8 to hunt hogs and deer out to 300 yds. SSA Barnes 110gr TSX.

I decided not to do a 7.62x39, the hunting ammo is more than the 6.8 and the russian ammo is un predictable. A buddy has taken many hogs with his .223 but that was not the way i wanted to go, Love the 6.8!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In fact I do not think you can get any caliber out of an AR-15 past 200 yards to have good enough ballistic or energy to do the job of killing a pig reliable.


The .30 Remington AR is in the AR-15 platform, and is pretty much a .300 Savage
in performance. Load it with a 130 grain Barnes, and that might get interesting.
Even a 110 grain Barnes might get interesting.

All of this is covering ground we already covered in this thread some time ago now though.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Folks,
Sorry to get in so late on this thread. I've been reading some of these threads with interest, because I've been toying with the idea of building a 30AR just for possible longer shots. I've been using a 7.62x39 16" upper for the last couple years, with very good results....but I have not shot any pigs over 180 yards with it, either.
I started out using the WW factory loaded 123 grain sp's, mainly for the brass. Then I loaded the 123 grain Hornady sp's over RL 7, and my groups shrunk to MOA. Pigs died! Then Cabelas had a closeout sale on Barnes 123 grain M/LE TAC-X bullets, and I bought several hundred, loaded them with a book max. of RL 7, and they shot MOA!
What a difference the Barnes bullets made in the effectiveness of the 7.62X39! The 180 yard shot mentioned above was with the barnes bullet on a 150# class sow that dropped on the spot! 99% of our shooting is at night.
I've killed three boars in this past week, 180#, 105#, and one almost 250 on Friday night. The 105 and 180 were complete pass throughs....both pigs were close to 100 yards away when shot. The larger boar, had the bullet lodged under the hide on the off side. The little one dropped DRT, the others never went over 35 yds. The big one was just over 60 yards away when shot.
the 180 # pig.
the 105 pounder, exit side.


One of my hunting buddies has a 6.8 and another has a Grendel, and neither seem to put the pigs down as well as the 7.62.....BUT I'm attributing that to the Barnes bullet, and larger caliber, nothing more! They are both using plastic tipped Hornady bullets.
I'm still thinking of the 30 AR for better ballistics, rather than the rainbow trajectory of the 7.62x39. I'll just have to find a good smith to chamber it in a premium ss match barrel, and thread it for a flash hider so it doesn't mess with my D740, even though it is gen 3 and autogated, the flash hider keeps it from "blooming out"
Just my experiences, no arguments intended.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the 6.8 with the 110 Barnes TSX, never had one move after being shot!

You are doing it right w the 7.62 hand loading, using better bullets, getting accuracy and killing power. The CorBon is a great rd also, before I got rid of my 7.62 that is what I was using but too expensive when not reloading yourself.

Congrats!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good shooting Gene.
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What a difference the Barnes bullets made in the effectiveness of the 7.62X39!


In my experience, that statement applies to a lot of rifle cartridges under .338 to .35 caliber.
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