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John B. Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:34 pm Post subject: ar in 30.06 |
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| is there an ar out there in 30.06 or is that a custom build |
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Burt TB Ballistics guy

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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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If an AR type rifle exists in .30-06, I've never heard of it.
( Probably be some searches run now to try and find one. )
The overall length of a loaded .30-06 round exceeds what the AR-10 is set
up for, let alone the AR-15. Even the .30-06 case is a good deal longer
than the .308 Win case, not counting any bullets seated in it.
The lower receiver would need a longer magazine well, and the upper would
likely need to be "stretched" also. _________________ Ban guns to eliminate crime ?
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Colby Thorson Hog Cereal Killer

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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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M1 Granand or BAR
That's going to be your only semi out 30-06.
I wouldn't even want an AR in 30-06 to be honest. _________________ 2011- 055 Confirmed Kills
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Ron Myers RESPECTED MEMBER

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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| If the Garand didn't weigh so much it would be a great hog rifle! |
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John B. Member
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Colby Thorson Hog Cereal Killer

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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Ron Myers wrote: | | If the Garand didn't weigh so much it would be a great hog rifle! |
Uh, maybe you mean the BAR?
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Ron Myers RESPECTED MEMBER

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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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You ever pick up a Garand?
The BAR is heavier than the Garand, but the Garand ain't a light weight!
The BAR is way too heavy. The Garand not quite so heavy but heavy enough! |
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David K Texasboars Legend Club Elite

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Ron Brown RESPECTED MEMBER
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:40 am Post subject: |
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| David K wrote: | http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2900/2993.htm
those guys can do it |
OH BOY, an AR in .416 Rigby!
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David K Texasboars Legend Club Elite

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:29 am Post subject: |
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| Ron Brown wrote: | | David K wrote: | http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2900/2993.htm
those guys can do it |
OH BOY, an AR in .416 Rigby!
Ron |
yea that would hurt.... |
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Burt TB Ballistics guy

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:55 am Post subject: |
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http://www.bushmaster.com/press_release_082007.asp
| Quote: | Bushmaster Acquires Cobb Manufacturing
August 20, 2007 - Windham, Maine: Bushmaster Firearms International, LLC announced today that it has completed a transaction to acquire the assets of Cobb Manufacturing, Inc., a Georgia-based developer and producer of Tactical Rifles currently available in .308, 30-06, .338 Lapua Magnum and .50 BMG calibers. In addition, Cobb’s founder and President, Skip Patel, has been named Executive Vice President of Research & Development for BFI. |
Now, after looking around the Bushmaster site, as far as I can tell only a .50 caliber
AR type rifle is being made. None of the other calibers seen in that first link
are listed at Bushmaster, unless I missed them.
The security arms link led to the Cobb company, which led to Bushmaster.....
This link: http://www.ar-10-rifles.com/index.php shows rifles chambered for
rounds that are shorter than .30-06 length rounds. Standard AR-10 length rounds.
Wonder if Cobb actually had production rifles in those calibers, or were they bought
out before some got past a prototype stage ?
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Let's ban cars, to eliminate drunk driving.
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David K Texasboars Legend Club Elite

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:21 am Post subject: |
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yea not sure Burt, interesting, I had Cobb bookmarked on my old laptop and looked for it and the site was all messed up, but didn't remember much about them other than they were doing some big bore stuff
So thats a long time ago they acquired them, kinda like what the freedom group did with bushmaster, which now the employees started their own company Windham Weaponry....
gotta wonder what their motive is |
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Burt TB Ballistics guy

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Bushmaster must have figured that there wasn't a big enough market to keep
going with most of the cartridges that Cobb had listed, as far as that part goes.
And since they ( Bushmaster ) got bought out after that, it remains to be seen if any of those rifles will be made in the future or not. Been nearly five years since Cobb was
bought though, so it doesn't look too likely at this time.
All of this explains why I hadn't heard of an AR-10 in .30-06 also.
Must have never really got off the ground. _________________ Ban guns to eliminate crime ?
Let's ban cars, to eliminate drunk driving.
Makes as much sense. |
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s10goes10s Texasboars Legend Club Elite
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:47 am Post subject: |
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| David K wrote: |
gotta wonder what their motive is |
George Soros wants all our guns  |
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FrankT Texasboars Legends Club
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| Why would you want an AR-10 in 30-06 when the .308 is already there? Sorta like my Rem 7400 in .308, the same gun, long action 30-06 is considered a jamomatic, the short action .308 is reliable. Did I say that right Burt? |
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Burt TB Ballistics guy

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:45 am Post subject: |
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I guess so Frank, heh. _________________ Ban guns to eliminate crime ?
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Ron Myers RESPECTED MEMBER

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:24 am Post subject: |
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It all comes down to weight. The .30 06 is too big, both the round and the action, when compared to more modern short-action rounds. Still a terrific bullet, just awful large.
They've really come up with a great concept in the 6.8 AR. The only thing that comes close in the weight/power combination is a .308 Scout rifle that has a 10 round magazine but the Steyr and Ruger Scouts are bolt action, and the Steyr is WAY too expensive.
There is quite a bit of talk in the 6.8 community that the ammo manufacturers will start offering more 6.8 rounds, TULA is going to introduce a 6.8 line in 2013. That would draw more into the caliber and open up more factory supply.
The damage that Huey and Colby have done shows this round is more than capable when compared to .308 and .30 06 as long as you have good shot placement. Heck, these guys have proved it gets the job done regardless when using 120 SST's!  |
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Bill Winfrey Texasboars Legend Club Elite

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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:59 am Post subject: |
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I remember someone was trying to produce a modular chassis with interchangeable mag wells, barrels and such...there was some problem with BATFE on the caliber interchangeability in the receiver , but I don't see the difference between that and a standard AR lower marked CAL-Multi Am I wrong?
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s10goes10s Texasboars Legend Club Elite
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Bill your talking about the same folks that made shoestrings & brillo-pads illeagal  |
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Ron Brown RESPECTED MEMBER
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:52 am Post subject: |
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| s10goes10s wrote: | Bill your talking about the same folks that made shoestrings & brillo-pads illeagal  |
I guess if marriage can be between the same sex ,,, A shoestring can be a gun. Just think what they will do to lassos when they get to them?
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TXRancher Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Cobb made one awhile back, had 10 round mags |
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Burt TB Ballistics guy

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Burt wrote: | Bushmaster must have figured that there wasn't a big enough market to keep
going with most of the cartridges that Cobb had listed, as far as that part goes.
And since they ( Bushmaster ) got bought out after that, it remains to be seen if any of those rifles will be made in the future or not. Been nearly five years since Cobb was
bought though, so it doesn't look too likely at this time.
All of this explains why I hadn't heard of an AR-10 in .30-06 also.
Must have never really got off the ground. |
_________________ Ban guns to eliminate crime ?
Let's ban cars, to eliminate drunk driving.
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Greg Culbertson NEWCOMER
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| FrankT wrote: | | Why would you want an AR-10 in 30-06 when the .308 is already there? Sorta like my Rem 7400 in .308, the same gun, long action 30-06 is considered a jamomatic, the short action .308 is reliable. Did I say that right Burt? |
I'm with you Frank. Why? I love the 30.06, but there are better guns for that.
I have a BAR lightweight stalker and Rem. 700 BDL in 30.06. The Bar is not heavy but longer than the Rem. |
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