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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:34 pm    Post subject: ar in 30.06 Reply with quote

is there an ar out there in 30.06 or is that a custom build
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If an AR type rifle exists in .30-06, I've never heard of it.
( Probably be some searches run now to try and find one. )
The overall length of a loaded .30-06 round exceeds what the AR-10 is set
up for, let alone the AR-15. Even the .30-06 case is a good deal longer
than the .308 Win case, not counting any bullets seated in it.
The lower receiver would need a longer magazine well, and the upper would
likely need to be "stretched" also.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

M1 Granand or BAR Twisted Evil

That's going to be your only semi out 30-06.

I wouldn't even want an AR in 30-06 to be honest.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the Garand didn't weigh so much it would be a great hog rifle!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looked at the rem mod 750. just wasnt sure about the ar. thanks guys
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron Myers wrote:
If the Garand didn't weigh so much it would be a great hog rifle!


Uh, maybe you mean the BAR?
I'd take the garand anyday over the browning
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You ever pick up a Garand?

The BAR is heavier than the Garand, but the Garand ain't a light weight!

The BAR is way too heavy. The Garand not quite so heavy but heavy enough!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2900/2993.htm

those guys can do it

however, there are other calibers that are equal or outperform the .30-06 in the larger platform that would be more suitable, these guys makes some pretty cool ones:

http://www.ar-10-rifles.com/index.php
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

David K wrote:
http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2900/2993.htm

those guys can do it


OH BOY, an AR in .416 Rigby!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron Brown wrote:
David K wrote:
http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2900/2993.htm

those guys can do it


OH BOY, an AR in .416 Rigby!

Ron


yea that would hurt....
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.bushmaster.com/press_release_082007.asp

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Bushmaster Acquires Cobb Manufacturing

August 20, 2007 - Windham, Maine: Bushmaster Firearms International, LLC announced today that it has completed a transaction to acquire the assets of Cobb Manufacturing, Inc., a Georgia-based developer and producer of Tactical Rifles currently available in .308, 30-06, .338 Lapua Magnum and .50 BMG calibers. In addition, Cobb’s founder and President, Skip Patel, has been named Executive Vice President of Research & Development for BFI.


Now, after looking around the Bushmaster site, as far as I can tell only a .50 caliber
AR type rifle is being made. None of the other calibers seen in that first link
are listed at Bushmaster, unless I missed them.
The security arms link led to the Cobb company, which led to Bushmaster.....

This link: http://www.ar-10-rifles.com/index.php shows rifles chambered for
rounds that are shorter than .30-06 length rounds. Standard AR-10 length rounds.

Wonder if Cobb actually had production rifles in those calibers, or were they bought
out before some got past a prototype stage ?



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea not sure Burt, interesting, I had Cobb bookmarked on my old laptop and looked for it and the site was all messed up, but didn't remember much about them other than they were doing some big bore stuff

So thats a long time ago they acquired them, kinda like what the freedom group did with bushmaster, which now the employees started their own company Windham Weaponry....

gotta wonder what their motive is
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bushmaster must have figured that there wasn't a big enough market to keep
going with most of the cartridges that Cobb had listed, as far as that part goes.
And since they ( Bushmaster ) got bought out after that, it remains to be seen if any of those rifles will be made in the future or not. Been nearly five years since Cobb was
bought though, so it doesn't look too likely at this time.
All of this explains why I hadn't heard of an AR-10 in .30-06 also.
Must have never really got off the ground.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

David K wrote:


gotta wonder what their motive is


George Soros wants all our guns Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would you want an AR-10 in 30-06 when the .308 is already there? Sorta like my Rem 7400 in .308, the same gun, long action 30-06 is considered a jamomatic, the short action .308 is reliable. Did I say that right Burt?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess so Frank, heh.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all comes down to weight. The .30 06 is too big, both the round and the action, when compared to more modern short-action rounds. Still a terrific bullet, just awful large.

They've really come up with a great concept in the 6.8 AR. The only thing that comes close in the weight/power combination is a .308 Scout rifle that has a 10 round magazine but the Steyr and Ruger Scouts are bolt action, and the Steyr is WAY too expensive.

There is quite a bit of talk in the 6.8 community that the ammo manufacturers will start offering more 6.8 rounds, TULA is going to introduce a 6.8 line in 2013. That would draw more into the caliber and open up more factory supply.

The damage that Huey and Colby have done shows this round is more than capable when compared to .308 and .30 06 as long as you have good shot placement. Heck, these guys have proved it gets the job done regardless when using 120 SST's! Very Happy Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember someone was trying to produce a modular chassis with interchangeable mag wells, barrels and such...there was some problem with BATFE on the caliber interchangeability in the receiver , but I don't see the difference between that and a standard AR lower marked CAL-Multi Am I wrong? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill your talking about the same folks that made shoestrings & brillo-pads illeagal Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

s10goes10s wrote:
Bill your talking about the same folks that made shoestrings & brillo-pads illeagal Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Confused


I guess if marriage can be between the same sex ,,, A shoestring can be a gun. Just think what they will do to lassos when they get to them?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cobb made one awhile back, had 10 round mags
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Burt wrote:
Bushmaster must have figured that there wasn't a big enough market to keep
going with most of the cartridges that Cobb had listed, as far as that part goes.
And since they ( Bushmaster ) got bought out after that, it remains to be seen if any of those rifles will be made in the future or not. Been nearly five years since Cobb was
bought though, so it doesn't look too likely at this time.
All of this explains why I hadn't heard of an AR-10 in .30-06 also.
Must have never really got off the ground.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FrankT wrote:
Why would you want an AR-10 in 30-06 when the .308 is already there? Sorta like my Rem 7400 in .308, the same gun, long action 30-06 is considered a jamomatic, the short action .308 is reliable. Did I say that right Burt?

I'm with you Frank. Why? I love the 30.06, but there are better guns for that.
I have a BAR lightweight stalker and Rem. 700 BDL in 30.06. The Bar is not heavy but longer than the Rem.
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