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Colby Thorson · Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:04 pm Post subject: 308 vs 7mm08

Looking into the two on a marlin xl7.
Any disadvantages between the two?
Whitetail and maybe a hog or two out to 300 yards?

Set aside ammo shortages..
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David K · Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:33 pm Post subject:

I think ballistically they are close to the same, so I would go with the .308 due to cost of ammo and availability and if you end up reloading the .308 brass is readily available and cheaper

Burt · Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:56 pm Post subject:

I've seen new .308 brass get hard to find at times the last few years.
Been that way on and off with a lot of reloading components.
Still, the .308 is a little more common. Nothing wrong with either cartridge.

The 7mm-08 is a modern version of the 7 x 57 ( 7mm Mauser ) pretty much.
Load data and factory ammo probably faster than most 7 x 57 stuff though, since
some old and weaker action 7 x 57 rifles are still out there.
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David K · Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:15 pm Post subject:

seen that also Burt, but lately been seeing some really good deals on .308 brass....even from Cabela's

Colby Thorson · Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:05 pm Post subject:

I had a 308 but got rid of it a couple months back.
I liked the cailber but didn't care for the gun.
From what I hear, this marlin is spose to be good
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Burt · Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:31 pm Post subject:

The rifle sure looks like a Savage clone.
Do a Google search on Marlin XL7 review
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tommytornado · Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:34 am Post subject:

The Marlin sure is priced right. .308 is awesome on hogs and deer.
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Mike H · Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:59 pm Post subject: post subject

Isn't the 7 mm -.08 a .308 necked down to 7 mm?

Burt · Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:01 pm Post subject:

Yes it is. And the .260 Remington is a .308 necked down to 6.5mm, and the .243 Win.
is a .308 necked down to 6mm ( .24 caliber )...

Neck it up to .338, and you have the .338 Federal. Go up to .358 diameter, and
you have the .358 Winchester.
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Mike H · Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:22 pm Post subject: post subject

Knew about the other "children" of the .308, was just suggesting that at least the theoretical powder capacities between .308 and 7 mm - .08 should be close to the same, main difference being bullet weight and diameter.

Burt · Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:46 pm Post subject:

Your question gave me the chance to tell others that might not know
about the connections all of those rounds have to each other though.
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hogcaller · Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:04 pm Post subject:

Burt · Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:40 pm Post subject:

The over all appearance of the rifle is closer to a Savage than a Remington.
There, how's that ?

Besides the barrel nut and the trigger, the bolt design is much more like
a Savage than a Remington also.
Three main features of the rifle's action "look" a lot like a Savage.
But no, it's not a clone. haha
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Mike H · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:07 am Post subject: post subject

Burt, I understand what you were doing. That is good information, just like the various rounds made from a .30-06 - although not as many - like the .270, .25-06, .35 Whelen. One really good cartridge can spawn many more.

1911man · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:58 am Post subject:

Both calibers are great choices for hog hunting, but my personal nod goes to the .308 since it's so versatile and has so many good bullet choices. If you don't handload, get a .308 and some Federal Fusion ammo and you will be good to go!
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1911man · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:02 am Post subject:

If your not 100% sold on the Marlin ck out the Tikka T-3, we have sold a LOT of these and everyone has been really happy with them. They are one of the most accurate bolt guns out of the box I've ever seen. I've personally go them in .270, .308, .30-06 and .338 Fed and they all shoot VERY good. Best value in a quality bolt gun in my opinion.
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Ron Myers · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:57 am Post subject:

HUEY · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:42 am Post subject:

Your 6.8 is plenty out to 450 yards. You dont need anther rifle. But you may want one. Twisted Evil

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Ron Myers · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:10 am Post subject:

Burt · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:35 am Post subject:

Bah humbug ! ( Seasonal thing there Very Happy

)

Get a .338 Lapua, and call it a day ! Laughing

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hogcaller · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:06 pm Post subject:

Colby Thorson · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:13 pm Post subject:

Y'all make everything so complicated, all I need is a daisy red ryder Laughing

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Burt · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:47 pm Post subject:

Get one of those too ! Twisted Evil

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txhunter6 · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:08 am Post subject:

have one of each and both are great for hogs and deer. Howa in 308 and weatherby in 7mm-08. handload both and both LOVE sierria SPBT.

Bill Winfrey · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:20 am Post subject:

Burt · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:44 am Post subject:

< Evil Laughter > Twisted Evil

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captdavid · Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:13 pm Post subject:

Sorry I got here late. I love the 7mms. That said I think that for ranges under 200yds the 308 using factory 180 power points is perfect!! capt david
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Bill Winfrey · Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:32 pm Post subject:

I got out a little cheaper than my neighbor...I bought the Sightmark 8.5-25x50 scope, and his was the NightForce Scope..out of my price range.. Rolling Eyes

I've done pretty well in the last week liquidating assets from 35 years of collecting "stuff" and hope to have my Savage shortly after New Years.. Smile

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Burt · Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:09 pm Post subject:

Bah humbug !
Everybody needs at least 7 different cartridges, so you can use a different rifle
every day of the week if so inclined. Twisted Evil

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Ron Brown · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:12 am Post subject: