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Chris Sills RESPECTED MEMBER

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:54 pm Post subject: Are Longhorn steer edible? |
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My appreciation for their status as yard art is at an all time low. Especially if someone has a couple of them running around so they can claim an Ag exemption on their taxes.
We've had a problem with a few Longhorns from a ranch upstream of us getting out and running amok in the canyon. I've been asking around for the last 3 weeks and no one has seen one on the lease in a while.
The last guy to hunt my section put up a lot of hog wire and barbwire around the feeder location to keep the longhorn out. The problem is this has kept the really big hogs out and the fencing is at the exact height I would be aiming for in the kill zone for both deer and hog.
So after not having any recent sightings, I took 2 big sections of fencing down on Tuesday to open up access to the feeders and remove any line of sight obstacles.
Fast forward to last night when I was at the lease filling the feeders for the last time before the rifle opener. I get a call from my next door neighbor who also got a spot on the lease. At that time he was also out trying to get to his section and had just pushed 2 Longhorns off his feeder as he pulled up with his load of corn.
My timing sucks! I got all excited last night looking at the pics of the new boars (actually saw some tusks!) coming in. Then I wondered next time if I would be looking at pics of my feeders laying on the ground and big-a$$ steer standing over them.
I really wanted to stay out of the area for the 2 to 3 days before the opener. Now I'm concerned about whether my feeders will even be standing when I head out Saturday morning.
So, anyone have any good recipes for steer? Just in case they blow my weekend opener!!  |
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Pelon SENIOR MEMBER
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Well Chris , I'm not sure if they are edible ,but the horns are nice and the hide can make a good looking area rug.  _________________ Paul Marx
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Chris Sills RESPECTED MEMBER

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Pelon wrote: | Well Chris , I'm not sure if they are edible ,but the horns are nice and the hide can make a good looking area rug.  |
Great idea! Maybe one of them will be a brindle colored one and I can decorate the blind with him.  |
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bartman RESPECTED MEMBER

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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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They are good and taste like chicken.  |
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kp Site Admin

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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:07 am Post subject: |
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What exactly is your problem with someone having cattle (or sheep, goats, etc for that matter) on their property so they can claim an ag exemption?
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Buford Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:19 am Post subject: |
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A long shotgun shot with birdshot has been known to discourage them!!
Nice lean hambuger!!
Buford _________________ If He's not your master, life's a disaster! |
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Raymond Gendron RESPECTED MEMBER

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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:01 am Post subject: |
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Hey it's BEEF...
I eat mine with a knife and fork and sometimes chew it right off the bone
Before you fill the freezer...call the Sherrif in your area, explain the problem and they "should" handle this issue.
Make a list of the distruction...give it to the deputy to deliver for a claim against the ranch responsible for the rouge steers.
You'll never have this issue again...
I hope you can resolve this issue.
Ray _________________ "If LIFE was meant to be taken lightly...
There would'nt be as much gravity..." |
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Chris Sills RESPECTED MEMBER

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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| kp wrote: | What exactly is your problem with someone having cattle (or sheep, goats, etc for that matter) on their property so they can claim an ag exemption?
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If I could pull it off and be a good neighbor, I'd do the same thing. I actually think Longhorns are cool looking. But when you have a problem, year after year, of keeping your animals on your property because they're only there to reduce your taxes, it sucks.
They aren't breeders and they really don't give a hoot about walking their fences regularly and making sure that their fencing is adequate to keep their livestock on their property. Apparently they get no supplemental feed and that's why the break out and roam around.
Their lack of concern directly impacts me and the rest of the hunters on our lease. I shouldn't have to go out of my way to fence off my feeders so that they can't knock them over. That keeps the bigger hogs I want away from the feeders.
And does anyone really think that hogs or some deer are going to push a few longhorn off of a feeder, especially if they've knocked it over?
This isn't about a legal tax break. It's about being a crappy neighbor. A neighbor whose been made aware of the problem year after year.
The lease has been a good neighbor. The manager actually hired a guy with a team of dogs to herd them up and get them back. Not this year. He's tired of spending money on someone elses cattle running loose. The cost of fencing and hiring someone to herd cattle takes away from the funds that can be used to improve things at the lease.
Off my soap box now.... |
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Randy Tausch SENIOR MEMBER
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Chris,
I don't know for sure but I think that after a certain amount of time and their lack of regaining possesion of the cattle, the owner of the property can claim them and do as he wishes with them. So if they have total disregard for them, you may have steak in your future.
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Chris Sills RESPECTED MEMBER

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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Randy Tausch wrote: | Chris,
I don't know for sure but I think that after a certain amount of time and their lack of regaining possesion of the cattle, the owner of the property can claim them and do as he wishes with them. So if they have total disregard for them, you may have steak in your future.
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I probably wouldn't shoot one. I just wish they had made their appearance last month or the month before. 4 days before the opener is bad timing. It doesn't give us enough time to try and get them out of there without chasing all the deer around too.
Oh well. I'll be happy once I'm in the blind tomorrow morning...
Randy, I almost forgot. Since taking the hogwire down on Tuesday, I've seen plenty of big hogs. Should be great when we get together. |
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Paul Roy EVALUATION PERIOD
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| The legal way to handle this is to notify the sheriff, and brand inspector. Hire some cowboys to catch the cattle and haul them to the sale barn. Put the gathering and hauling charges on the cattle. Contact the owners or have the sheriff do it and tell them where the cattle are. They can at that time go pick up the cattle and pay the capture/hauling bill, or they can let the cattle sell and the charges come off the top and the cattle owners get the rest. There should be someone at your local sale barn that does this type of work. You can't shoot them, there are laws on the books to handle stray livestock. |
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:43 am Post subject: |
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I`m suprised the fence wire kept them away. I bought 2 they look cool & eat well. My 5 acre pasture is 6` & 8` high chain link fence. 9 ga. wire & streched very tight. First steer wigh 30" horn spread & 1,000 lb. learned to lay flat,lift fence with horn & slide under fence ! I watched him. He had a real attitude he prematurely visited butcher. The other one must have gotten lonely or something, he could jump over the 6` fence clearing it entirely. Son in law called last night to thank me for the steaks !
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Chris Sills RESPECTED MEMBER

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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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The lease manager has found were they are coming in from. Now we just need to figure out how to get them back to the area where there is a gate.
The lease manager tried to feed them some corn and lure them back, but as soon as he hopped out of the 4-wheeler, the orange colored longhorn droppped her head and starting giving him the eye. He took the hint.
We just need to get them on the other side of the Cibolo creek before it rains some more. The water would help to keep them contained until we can get them off. Not sure what the permanent fix is. |
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